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Files in Category:Banknotes of the Philippines

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Philippines banknotes are non-free, see COM:Currency#Philippines.

Sealle (talk) 22:41, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • According to {{PD-PhilippinesGov}}, all works by the government of the Philippines are in the public domain. I'd imagine that banknotes are government works, so the template currently contradicts the section you linked to.
Note that the copyright tag has been listed for deletion twice because of unclear things in the law, and there's the contradicting template w:Template:Non-free Philippines government which has also been listed for deletion twice. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:52, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It is true, in the same way that in the English Wikipedia has been requested several times to change that template. Note that the two templates reflect the consensus reached in both projects, although they contradict. I am not an expert in laws, the aforementioned law says "legal tender bank note", that is, bills that are currently in circulation. Note that such regulation makes reference to the falsification of money. I think that copyrights are independent, as are brand rights or personality rights. The problem is not the copyright, but what you do with the images (Template:Currency)). Ultimately, these images can be transferred to other projects since the restrictions are compatible with fair use (which are not the same size as real bank notes, which have an educational purpose, etc.). Note that the only thing not allowed are the faithful printed or engraved representations and the same size, larger images and digital images are allowed. --Metrónomo's truth of the day: "That was also done by the president" not an excuse. 01:01, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In the chapter on coins only prohibits their representation "on metal", they are clearly restrictions against counterfeiting of currency, not against copyright. --Metrónomo's truth of the day: "That was also done by the president" not an excuse. 01:24, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I'm not 100% expert in Philipine copyright law (or, specifically, in PH case law), but I do know for a fact that imitation/toy banknotes and plastic coins are widely sold in bookstores and even in department stores in the Philippines (with the requisite "SPECIMEN" or "PLAY MONEY" or "FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY" markings on them), despite the apparent "non-free" status of Filipino banknotes (as alleged by the nominator). (Here is a sample, from an online seller.) No one has been sued or jailed for printing or selling those, if I'm not mistaken. As mentioned by "That was also done by the president" not an excuse, I think the intent of the law is against the counterfeiting of money, and all other images or reproductions especially intended for educational purposes would probably not be covered by the BSP regulations. --- Titopao (talk) 11:35, 20 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kept: COM:Currency conflates anti-counterfeiting laws and copyright restrictions. It appears that these are all works of the Philippine government and therefore public domain. Restrictions against counterfeiting should be indicated with the appropriate template such as {{Currency}}. --Guanaco (talk) 10:54, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Files in Category:Banknotes of the Philippines 2

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Most of these banknotes are not allowed to be here per COM:CUR Philippines.

  — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 05:17, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • The Central Bank of the Philippines was established in 1949. How can their prohibition apply to notes issued prior to 1949? Furthermore, the Philippine Island Treasury Proofs were designed, engraved, and printed by the US Bureau of Engraving & Printing when the Philippines was a U.S. Territory and as such they are in the public domain.-Godot13 (talk) 05:41, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Godot13: Then COM:CUR United States would apply for those older notes.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 05:54, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
WWII occupation notes were issued by the Japanese Government, the 1898 note was issued by the Spanish Government when the Philippines was part of Spain...-Godot13 (talk) 06:00, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Godot13: Then COM:CUR Japan and COM:CUR Spain would apply for those older notes. You really don't have to duplicate these posts on my user talk page.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 06:03, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies.-Godot13 (talk) 06:06, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Applicable law (per the bank [1]) regards the illustration of legal tender Philippine notes. I understand that to mean currency with current monetary value (I may be wrong), which notes prior to 1949 do not have.-Godot13 (talk) 06:17, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
For the file "File:BSP Peso Announcement Sign.JPG", the sign was made by BSP. PD-PhilippineGov can work, unless COM:CUR Philippines still stands. Ominae (talk) 10:27, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
COM:CUR Japan would not apply at all for those notes, I don't think. The Philippines was a territory of Spain and then the U.S., but it had its own law at the time, and the laws of the other countries often were not directly applied, or altered a bit when they were, and other local laws were also in effect. You have to go through Philippine legal history specifically. Secondly, the regulations in question are part of the anti-counterfeiting laws, and are a non-copyright restriction. Anything which is not legal tender in the Philippines would pretty much be outside the scope of those regulations (which, as mentioned below, I think restrict printed reproductions only anyways). So any pre-1949 notes should be OK, as long as the copyright status checks out (per Philippine law). Carl Lindberg (talk) 17:44, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm leaning  Keep per the closure of the previous DR -- I'm not so sure those regulations apply to photographic reproductions. The regulations specifically say "object" and refer to printed reproductions, and do not mention photographs. There are certainly non-copyright restrictions which apply to printed versions, just like the U.S., but I'm not sure they rise to the point that hosting them here violate the regulations. Carl Lindberg (talk) 17:35, 2 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Keep Per the BSP website: Current banknotes and coin “in circulation issued by BSP” include coins (1995-present), New Generation Currency Coin Series (2018-present), and New Generation Currency Banknote Series (2010-present). [2] The Old Banknote Series (NDS), launched in 1985, was demonetized and replaced with the New Generation Currency (NGC) launched in 2010. [3] The last day for redemption of the NDS was 30 June 2017. As of 1 July 2017 the NDS had no monetary value. [4] Demonetized coin series include the English Series (1958–66), Pilipino [sic] Series (1969–74), Ang Bagong Lipunan (1975–82), Flora and Fauna Series (1983–91), and Improved Flora and Fauna Series (1992–94). [5] While I won’t make any assumptions, it likely follows that paper currency series pre-1985 have also been demonetized. The rules and regulations for series 2010 on I can't say.-Godot13 (talk) 20:44, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Clindberg and Godot13: Please feel free to strikeout any links to depictions of banknotes that have been demonetized.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 23:11, 3 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jeff G.: Will do, thanks. A list of demonetized banknote series can be found at [6].-Godot13 (talk) 02:24, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Clindberg and Jeff G.: I can't speak to the Peso Announcement Sign near the top, but any note not crossed out is current issue circulating legal tender.--Godot13 (talk) 03:11, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Godot13: Thanks.   — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 10:27, 4 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. --Well-Informed Optimist (talk) 14:13, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Files in Category:Banknotes of the Philippines

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Per COM:CUR Philippines, currencies that are legal tender in the Philippines are copyrighted.

A1Cafel (talk) 07:49, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. This deletion request is a misreading of COM:CUR Philippines. As stated there, copyright does not exist in works of the government of the Philippines and this includes banknotes. (Hence, why we have the {{PD-PhilippinesGov}} template.) What is restricted are reproductions (aka facsimiles) of legal tender banknotes in order to prevent counterfeiting. However, none of the nominated images can reasonably be construed to be reproductions of whole banknotes since they are either photos of small portions of banknotes, or are oblique photos of whole banknotes that cannot be used for reproducing counterfeits. —seav (talk) 07:57, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment See also Commons:Deletion requests/File:1000 Peso Bill ENGC 2020.png and Commons:Deletion requests/File:1000P Front Enhanced.jpg--A1Cafel (talk) 06:19, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: per nomination. These are details from banknotes. Per COM:CUR Philippines, material is copyrighted: Any handbill, advertisement, placard, circular, card, or any other object whatsoever bearing the facsimile, likeness or similitude of any legal tender Philippine currency note, or any part thereof, whether in black and white or any color or combination of colors, without prior authority therefore having been secured from the Governor, BSP or his duly authorized representative. (Bold or any part thereof' by me). Thefore the images must be deleted. --Ellywa (talk) 19:30, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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